A great article and advice from Brian Mooney, Irish Times 1st March 2021

Essential guide to choosing your Leaving Cert subjects

SELECTING the right subjects for the Leaving, and the level at which to take them, is a critical task faced by 60,000 second-level students every year. The wrong choice here can have unintended consequences in two years’ time, when students find paths into college are blocked by unfortunate subject gaps. There are good reasons why students tend to have a science subject and a third language in their arsenal and, as you will find if you read on, there are no “soft” options on the Leaving Cert exam.

1.     GETTING IT RIGHT

Your schools will probably offer you the option of studying seven subjects. Your best six grades, achieved in one sitting of the Leaving Certificate or its equivalent, will be used to calculate your point score for entry purposes to college courses.

If you are taking more than one ordinary level paper from the beginning of your two-year Leaving Cert programme, you may want the option of having six higher-level papers for points purposes.

You can only achieve this by taking an extra subject either inside or outside school. You need to be very careful before considering this option. There is no such thing as an easy higher level paper and every subject requires considerable time commitment and effort on your part. Eight subjects are a major undertaking. If the additional subject is being studied outside school, you will have to factor in the time travelling to and from such a grind. All this time and effort eats into the time available to you to work on the seven subjects you are studying in school.

2.     SHOULD STUDENTS TAKE ON EXTRA SUBJECTS OUTSIDE SCHOOL?

If there are timetable restrictions that make it impossible for you to take a subject you particularly enjoy you could consider taking it outside school, provided you factor in an appropriate amount of study time to cover all your other subjects. Alternatively, you might consider changing schools at the beginning of fifth year, to ensure that you get your desired subject choices.

3.     WHAT HAPPENS IF I DO NOT TAKE HIGHER LEVEL IRISH?

Apart from ruling out a number of honours degree programmes which have Irish as a core entry requirement, the main consequence of dropping higher level Irish is that you are precluded from studying to be a primary school teacher in any of the Irish training colleges.

4.     WHAT HAPPENS IF I DO NOT TAKE HIGHER LEVEL MATHS?

There are many Level 8 degree programmes you can’t take if you don’t get a minimum of C3 in higher-level maths; engineering, computer science, science, information and computer technology courses and most degrees that include maths as a core subject.

If you are interested in any of these courses you could start your third level journey with a two-year higher certificate programme, which will require a minimum of a D3 in ordinary level maths. Provided you secure a minimum of 60 per cent in your various examinations, you can then progress on to ordinary degree level and from there to an honours bachelors degree. This entire process may add only one or two extra years to your studies, over and above those who secure a place on an honours bachelors degree programme, immediately after their Leaving Cert.

 

5.     WHAT HAPPENS IF I DO NOT TAKE A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN IRISH AND ENGLISH?

The colleges of the National University of Ireland require a pass in a third language for entry into a large number of their courses. These colleges are NUI Maynooth, Dublin, Galway and Cork, and a range of associated constituent colleges, all of which are listed on the NUI website at nui.ie In recent years NUI colleges have dropped their third language requirement for engineering and science programmes. UCD has also dropped it for their agricultural programmes. Nursing at NUI colleges never required a third language. A third language must be included for arts, human sciences, law, social science, commerce, medicine and health sciences and some other degrees. A third language is also a requirement for entry into the cadetship in the army or air corps.

Trinity accepts Irish as a second language requirement. UL and DCU and the Institutes of Technology do not require a continental language for entry purposes to most of their courses, apart from those which involve the study of such a language.

6.     WHAT’S THE EASIEST SUBJECT IN THE LEAVING CERT AND WHAT’S THE HARDEST?

Look at the tables published on this page which show the results achieved in 2010. No Leaving Cert subject is easy but some can be easier than others.

7.     WHAT COMBINATIONS OF SUBJECTS WORK?

You should attempt to select a balanced range of subjects that will leave your further and higher education options open for as long as possible. Most students study Irish (unless exempted), English and maths. A large majority of students also study a continental language, or for those students coming originally from outside the EU, a native language approved by the State Examination Commission.

In selecting your remaining three subjects, you should study carefully the essential subjects for entry to every third level course, available online at qualifax.ie so you are aware of the minimum subject entry requirements for all courses offered through the CAO. Unless you have a specific career or course interest that is guiding your remaining subject choices, my advice is to spread your final three choices across the entire spectrum of business, scientific, liberal arts and practical subjects. You should also be mindful of the results of previous examinations and aptitudes test results when making these choices.

Choose your subject

  • IRISH
    Although studied by virtually all students, higher-level Irish is taken by less than a third of students, with nearly three times as many girls as boys taking the subject. As it is essential for entry into primary teaching, the lack of male students acts to suppress their numbers in primary school classrooms. Many students seem to have a mental block when it comes to studying Irish. For those who do not, Irish is an attractive higher-level subject.

    ENGLISH
    This is a good higher-level subject for the average student, provided they are prepared to read extensively. Strong written expression is required in achieving a good result.

    MATHS
    Less than 20 per cent of Leaving Cert students take this subject at higher level, with many students falling back to ordinary level when the pressure builds up in sixth year. It is a relatively straightforward subject for those who are good at maths, but tends to be perceived as time-consuming. The introduction of bonus points for students securing a D3 or higher on higher level maths may increase the take-up of the subject. The roll-out of the revised syllabus through the Project Maths programme should also increase the take-up at higher level among students.

    HISTORY

    The history course has been extended beyond military and political history to include social and cultural issues. Students can secure up to 20 per cent of their overall marks by pre-submitting a research paper on a selected topic from a range set out by the State Examinations Commission. Students have to present three essays in their higher Leaving Cert paper, plus a documents question.

    GEOGRAPHY

    This subject studies the relationship between human activity and the physical environment. It is an extremely wide curriculum. Students have the opportunity to undertake a geographic investigation worth 20 per cent of the overall marks in the final examination. This is pre-submitted in April of sixth year. For both science and pharmacy at TCD, geography is accepted as a science subject for entry requirements.

    CONTINENTAL LANGUAGES

    The three main elements are comprehension, oral and written presentation. The emphasis is on the ability to comprehend and converse in the language studied; this is reflected in the fact that a third of the final marks awarded are for aural and oral work.

    APPLIED MATHS

    A very suitable subject for the student taking higher-level maths and physics. Some students complete the programme as an additional after-school subject, taken in one or two periods per week, over the two years of the Leaving Cert.

    PHYSICS

    Physics has a strong maths element and requires the learning off of many formulae. Students must maintain a laboratory book, as there are 27 mandatory experiments, four of which are offered on the Leaving Cert paper, with three to be presented.

    CHEMISTRY

    Students taking chemistry have to learn off the chemical components of a series of prescribed experiments. They will be required to present the elements of four such experiments in their examination.

    BIOLOGY

    Students undertake 24 mandatory experiments, the details of which they record in their laboratory book. It is often perceived as an easier subject than physics or chemistry but this is not so. There are high failure rates at ordinary level.

    HOME EC – SOCIAL AND SCIENTIFIC

    This is a combination of cooking, home economics, biology and business. It’s an interesting subject, but not the easy honour that some imagine. Twenty per cent of the marks are for a course work journal, completed within normal class time, and pre-submitted in October of sixth year, prior to the written examination. The study of food science is a central part of this subject. Students also have the option of studying one of social studies, textiles or home design.

    BUSINESS

    This subject deals with current realities of a fast-changing business environment. It requires constant attention to the business pages of the quality newspapers. It looks at how organisations are formed, financed and run. It also explores the services that support businesses such as insurance, banking, transport, as well as public service bodies.

    ECONOMICS

    Economics has a mathematical slant as well as graphic and theoretical work. It explores the inner workings of companies, and how they measure their success and progress. At a macro level it examines international trade, the role of government and the EU in controlling the economy, competition and markets. A good subject for the analytical student.

    ACCOUNTING

    Students who enjoyed the bookkeeping part of Junior Cert business should consider accounting. Analysis and interpretation of accounts is the core activity at Leaving Cert level. For those with strong numeracy and reasoning skills.

    RELIGIOUS EDUCATION

    Students are introduced to the dialogue between science and religion in the exploration of meaning and values in our societies. Twenty per cent of the marks are for the journal, which is pre-submitted prior to the examination.

    MUSIC AND ART

    Most students taking either option will be following on from Junior Cert. At Leaving Cert, art involves work on the history and appreciation of art alongside the design and craftwork.

    Construction Studies, Engineering, Design and Communications Graphics

    These practical subjects give students hands-on experience working with tools and machinery. Students also undertake theoretical and background work for their final examinations.

    TECHNOLOGY

    Technology gives students a basic understanding of the principles of engineering, design and project management. If you enjoyed the technology programme at Junior Cert level, and like hands-on activity, this subject may develop an interest in a career in engineering or technology. 

CAREER CHOICES

When you are considering which subjects to take, remember this decision will have long-term consequences on what careers are open to you. A decision to drop all science subjects or continental languages will have major implications on the range of careers open to you later on.

The same does not apply to business subjects, as most business courses teach all subjects with the presumption that students know nothing. If a student is making subject choices and has not yet decided what career they wish to follow after school, I would advise them to keep all their options open by taking a science and continental language subject from among their four optional subjects.

The Most Important Piece of Advice

A pass in ordinary level maths is essential for entry to the majority of courses. The 5,000 students who fail to secure a grade D in ordinary level are in a particularly difficult situation. A further 5,000 students each year now choose foundation level maths, and there is a growing number of colleges and courses that offer places to students who secure a minimum of a grade A or B in maths at this level. Whatever you do over the next two years, don’t neglect your studies in this subject.

Sunday Independent - Coach for the right direction

Sunday Independent - 12th September 2014 by Sarah Caden
Coach for the right direction
IT WOULD be helpful when you're filling out your CAO," says Michael Hogerziel, 18, of the career coaching he received from Greg Dalton while waiting for his Leaving Certificate results.
"Or maybe a year before the exams," he goes on. "Or maybe when you're choosing your subjects. I don't know, I suppose I'm just annoyed that I didn't get it a bit earlier."
Reflecting during those days between receiving his results and receiving an offer from the CAO, neither outcome is unhappy for the Wicklow student, but knowing what he does now, there is a sense of could have done better. With some effort, motivation and sense of direction his points could have been higher and more finely tuned to his talents, while his college choice could have been better suited to his abilities and ambitions.
As it stands, Michael received his first CAO choice, Spanish and Business at DIT, but what coaching has taught him is that this is not an ending itself. And, further, that it's possible to achieve what he really wants and not just what is expected.
Greg Dalton - who coached Michael and is a life and career coach - knows exactly what it's like to live according to conventional expectations. "I was in sales and marketing 20 years," he explains. "I didn't really enjoy it, I went from job to job, never staying more than a few years and I stayed because I thought it was my industry.
"Then, after September 11, the company I was working for, a subsidiary for an airline, began rationalising and making cutbacks and as sales and marketing manager, I was one of them. I had got to the point where I realised I wasn't enjoying it, though, so instead of getting into the same situation all over again, I started looking at other options."
Greg's first step was to visit a career consultant, who told him what his gut knew already. He should never have been in marketing in the first place. The career consultant,with knowledge of Greg's character, interests and abilities, suggested several options. A career in counselling, which did not interest Greg, training, which appealed a bit more, or career management, which immediately sounded right.
"I realised I had always been the person people had come to at work with problems and issues. I was a sounding board, someone people felt comfortable with, a source of advice." From there, he took a diploma in coaching, began taking clients and this year, and then developed my programme.
Further, Greg devised a series of tasks and questionnaires - the Talent Discovery and Development programme - for clients aged between 15 and 25 years of age.
It is specifically designed to help young people make choices regarding their second- and third-level education and future careers.
"It's about putting a round peg in a round hole," says Greg. "About 70 per cent of people are unhappy in their work," he goes on. Lisa Martin, 21, has taken some career coaching from Greg Dalton. A Tipperary-born student of Sociology and Social Policy, she finished her finals this summer and wondered what came next.
She explains the process - the initial, long, guided conversation with Greg. The series of questionnaires that establish personality, behavioural traits, ability to interact and ambitions.
"It was amazing," she says, "that even from that first session, someone could know that much about me. After the first interview, Greg gave me a 26-page printout and reading it was such a shock to the system. I thought it was 95 per cent accurate, but my mother and friends thought it was 100 per cent and it was great in the way it wasn't just about strengths but also gave guidance in what I need to work on and develop."
Lisa emerged from the programme defined as a "communicator" and with Greg's help is now looking into PR and a means of incorporating her qualifications into a path suited to her personality.
Both Michael and Lisa talk enthusiastically about Dalton's attention to them as individuals and it becomes clear that this is not something they have enjoyed in the education system.
Of course, schools have hundreds of students but Dalton's programme highlights how many feel they simply follow like sheep.
"A year ago I was definitely unsure of what direction I was going," says Michael. "I filled in the CAO form on the last day for changing your mind and I now feel like last year was a year lost. I wish I'd met Greg a year ago, for some sense of direction. I feel now I know more who I am and not just what career or course I should do."
"School kids think this is fantastic," says Greg Dalton. "And career guidance teachers think it's amazing, totally complementary to what they're doing. The programme delivers to them a student who knows who they are and what they want to do and then, the career guidance teacher can show them what schools and jobs are open to them."
An important part of Greg's programme is putting young people into their chosen field for a while, allowing them a taste of the reality. He believes strongly that all steps of the programme could help transform the education system and says there is already influential interest in the process.
For his own part, Greg Dalton does not look back on his 20 years in marketing as wasted time. That would be a real waste of time, he laughs. Instead, he focuses on the insight it has given him on how easy it is to take the wrong turn and it adds extra satisfaction to the results he's seeing by getting in early to steer kids in the right direction.
And the young people themselves seem to feel, the earlier the better.
Greg Dalton can be contacted on 087 462 6333 for information on their offices around the country. Also, you can log on to www.gregdalton.ie
Sarah Caden
Sunday Independant

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